BUILDING TRUE PASTORAL, AND FROM PASTORAL TO APOSTOLIC :

Posted: March 20, 2012 in Family/ kids and environments, The 5 fold Ministries

IF WE DO NOT BUILD A TRUE PASTORAL MINSITRIES, WE CANNOT REALLY BUILD A STRONG APOSTOLIC CULTURES. TO BUILD A STRONG APOSTOLIC CULTURES, WE NEED A TRUR FUNCTIONS OF PASTORAL MINISTIRES IN OUR COMMUNITIES, NOT JUST COMMUNITY LOVERS.

I am going to write the truths, and I am going to give out solid foods at this moment, that we might grow up into maturity and that we might be useful for the Works of Christ.
It was he who gave some to be apostles, some to be prophets, some to be evangelists, and some to be pastors and teachers, to prepare God’s people for works of service, so that the body of Christ may be built up until we all reach unity in the faith and in the knowledge of the Son of God and become mature, attaining to the whole measure of the fullness of Christ. (Ephesians 4:11-13)

We have wrote about the different functions of the 5 fold ministries, this time as we were discussing, we felt writing in the context of the Northeast Indian brothers and sisters, some of them are also much related to many parts of India.
We live in an Asian culture, where we are relational and are a community culture and environment, and that is part of Pastoral Ministries. But, this is one thing I found out and has been in my heart and minds for sometimes especially around Northeast India. We miss out some of the main point of the Pastoral Ministries, which are listening in counseling and the way we communicate to Children and kids, even the value for families and married couples.

One of Pastoral work is to value family, and value couples and children. We are so much community environment to the point we miss out what creates the communities and environments, and neglect our families, the important of a married couples and our children. Communities and environments are created by families coming together, but if we do not value married couples, have respect on married couples, their priorities, their personal time, their relationships, and also to children, then we can miss the whole point in the communities coming together, because communities are made up of families coming together.

In this world there are many types of community environments, Gangs in different parts of the world live a life of community environments as well, if we look at the red light areas of different parts of India and different parts of the world, they too live so much in a community environments. Even Gangs in different places, In America, In Africa and many parts of the world we heard about them live in communities. Living in community environments are not bad, in fact there are many ways that they are good, but the way we live in communities are important. If we do not value families, married couples, give priorities, value their relationships, and also value children, we miss the whole point, the foundation of communities. Families are one of the main foundations of creating good communities. Many of our communities today around the Northeast are filled with unhealthy sexual jokes, discriminating someone or a person in public, making fun of people’s weaknesses in public, gossiping, using unclean and unhealthy words, those are not a healthy environments nor a healthy communities. GOD DOES NOT LIKE COMMUNITIES FOR THE SAKE OF COMMUNITIES, BUT GOD DESIRES TO BUILD A HEALTHY COMMUNITIES, GODLY COMMUNITIES, and families are important for that, giving and respecting the priorities of a married couples, valuing their personal times, valuing their relationships, respecting children. GOD DESIRES TO BUILD GODLY COMMUNITIES AND ENVIRONMENTS, NOT JUST COMMUNITIES.

Sodom and Gomorra was a Community, but God does not like that community, so we are to build Godly Communities, and God desires to build Godly environments.

Godly communities has respect for one another, concern for one another, listen to one another, value married couples, their priorities, their married life, their relationships, and their personal times, what they like and what they do not like, has respect for the family culture which may not be sins, all these things are parts of building Healthy Communities and Godly Communities and environments. Unless we put on these cloths upon us, we are not really functioning in Pastoral types of communities.

In fact, the Bible also tells us in Genesis 2:23-25, how much God Himself give respect and priorities to a family and especially to a married couples –

The man said,
“This is now bone of my bones
and flesh of my flesh;
she shall be called ‘woman,’
for she was taken out of man.”
For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and they will become one flesh.
The man and his wife were both naked, and they felt no shame. (Genesis 2:23-25)

According to the culture of the Northeast India, many families live together in one home, even for us we still live with my Grand Father and Mother since we had been and were going out as a Missionary for years to another culture, we were living as a family, but now we are back in our home culture for a while with my Grand Mom and Dad, but according to the Bible and how God respect families and married couples and give priorities and value them is that, God even said, “A man will leave his father and mother and united to his wife”. That is contradict to many of our Northeast cultures.

Another thing in Pastoral is that, we are not always to rely on Pastoral types of communities, though we are to practice and do those true Godly Pastoral types, not just community environments as I have shared, we are also to have a Pioneering heart, we need to balance our communities with this, that people can be released, move into their callings, stand on their feet trusting God. They must learn to be bold, strong, courageous and radical, not just loving communities and can do nothing without communities, we need communities for helping one another and serving one another, but if we do not grow, bold, strong and courageous in our own either we are working or having ministries or any other things, we will only be like a little baby. We need to build and cultivate in us a pioneering heart, and that is Apostolic. We are to be doing a true pastoral works, but move from Pastoral to Apostolic believers and Communities.

IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER: In the Northeast India, MOST OF WHAT WE CALLED PASTORAL ARE NOT REALLY TRUE PASTORAL FUNCTIONS, NOR APOSTOLIC.

And though all the 5 fold Ministries might be needed, this is in the context of our community cultures.

IF WE DO NOT BUILD A TRUE PASTORAL MINISTRIES, WE CANNOT REALLY BUILD A STRONG APOSTOLIC CULTURES. TO BUILD A STRONG APOSTOLIC CULTURES, WE NEED A TRUE FUNCTIONS OF PASTORAL MINISTIRES IN OUR COMMUNITIES THOUGH THAT WILL NOT MAKE THINGS PERFECT, BUT IT WILL BUILD STRONGER APOSTOLIC MINISTRIES TO FUNCTION, NOT JUST COMMUNITY LOVERS, AND THEN MOVE FROM PASTORAL TO APOSTOLIC CULTURES.

THERE IS ALSO MUCH POSSIBILITIES IN A TRUE PASTORAL MINISTRIES OR COMMUNITIES AND CHURCHES WHERE YOU CAN GET STUCK IN THE PASTORAL STATUS QUA AND DO NOT WELCOME THE APOSTOLIC ANOINTING OR THE APOSTOLIC MINISTRIES. THEN THEY WILL GET STUCK THERE FOREVER IN THE SAME STATUS QUA, NO MOVEMENT OR CHANGE EVEN WHEN CHANGE OR MOVEMENTS ARE REALLY NEEDED. SO, AS WELL AS IT IS IMPORTANT TO BUILD A TRUE PASTORAL MINISTRIES, IT IS ALSO IMPORTANT TO MOVE FROM TRUE PASTORAL WITH ALL IMPERFECTIONS AND RECEIVE THE APOSTOLIC ANOINTING AND MINISTRIES.

David Chawngthu
KINGDOM OF HEAVEN APOSTOLIC MINISTRIES

One day we will also try writing about the Prophetic and the relates to Apostolic, to really function in the Apostolic Ministries, Apostolic Ministries need to receive from the Prophetic Ministries, because only one foundation is not powerful (see Ephesians 2:20), not just in church, but also ministries and any other Apostolic Ministries, unless both of them are already functioning in balance. Both are important, both needs to let the Ministries advanced, because both are the foundations. Apostolic Ministries can even soon die down and not last long if the Prophetic is also not functioning or is not received from the Prophetic Ministries. It is also said that Prophetic is one of the strength of the Apostolic Ministries, and I believe in that. Apostolic Ministries need to get their strengths from the Prophetic Ministries as well to really function.

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Comments
  1. A Church or Ministries are not an Apostolic church or Apostolic Ministries, or either are no more an Apostolic Church or Apostolic Ministries when it has no more vision for her city, village or town transformation, or either nation or nations transformation and make a movement.
    Apostolic Church and ministries has a vision for transforming their cities, towns, village, nation or nations, and it is not an Apostolic unless there is a movement that is made, Apostolic Churches and Ministries must make a Movement.

    So, the starting of an Apostolic churches and Apostolic Ministries can be Apostolic, but when it has no more visions for the transformations of her city, town, village, nation or nations, it is not functioning in their Apostolic anymore. It dies down.

  2. Kingdom Truths says:

    IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER: In the Northeast India, MOST OF WHAT WE CALLED PASTORAL ARE NOT REALLY TRUE PASTORAL FUNCTIONS, they are just COMMUNITIES AS WE HAVE SHARED. NOR ARE THEY APOSTOLIC.

  3. WHAT'S PASTORAL MISNISTRY? says:

    IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER: In the Northeast India, MOST OF WHAT WE CALLED PASTORAL ARE NOT REALLY TRUE PASTORAL FUNCTIONS, NOR APOSTOLIC. they are just COMMUNITIES AS WE HAVE SHARED. Pastoral guides their sheep intimately, knows them, cares for them, listen to them, are close enough with them, AND MAINLY CARES FOR THE WOUNDS OF THEIR SHEEP, THEY HEAL THEM TO DO INNER HEALING, THEY ARE EASILY APPROACHABLE FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE IN WOUNDS AND NEED INNER HEALING, THEY LISTEN AND DO PERSONAL COUNSELING TO THEM. SO THESE ARE THE ROLES OF PASTORAL MINISTRIES.

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